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Jan 20, 2013 8:00am PST
the cell phones and technology of today. >> how difficult was it -- you were the first really in many cases woman and first black woman. >> yes. >> so, you had to deal with obstacles in both. you dealt with both the gender obstacles and the racial obstacles. it almost seems like i better not do this. how much of that was on your head before you opened your mouth in front of a microphone if. >> i had no clear picture because there was no example. there was nothing to show me what it may be like. in a way that was really good because everything came as a new challenge and my solution had to be as valid as anybody's could be because nobody else could work that problem out, the whole thing about color, race and hair, all those things had not been problems the first time they had the make-up artists come from l.a. here. they looked at me and said keep on doing what you are doing, because they had nothing to lose except the make-up they did for elizabeth taylor! [ laughing ] >> i heard somebody talking about make-up, for instance. if you say natural, that means nothing to a black woman beca
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